Controlled Access Courses

What are the Controlled Access Courses?

The controlled access courses in physics are:

  • Physics 3700 (Data Analysis Lab) - offered Au, Sp.  Sometimes available in the summer (see below for more information)
  • Physics 4700 (Electronics Lab) - offered Au, Sp. Sometimes available in the summer (see below for more information)
  • Physics 5700 (Senior Lab for ASC Physics Majors) - offered Au, Sp
  • Physics 5710 (Senior Lab for Eng Physics Majors) - offered Au, Sp

These courses are controlled access (meaning students cannot enroll themselves) because there is limisted space available in each course and the Department of Physics wants to make sure students are taking them at the appropriate time (to prevent sophomores from taking seats from graduating seniors, etc.)
 

When are Controlled Access Courses Offered?

Autumn and Spring semesters

Physics 3700 will have a lecture on Mondays 10:20-11:15am. You will then choose one of the following three labs:

  • Monday 1-5pm (spring semester only)
  • Tuesday 1-5pm
  • Thursday 1-5pm

Physics 4700 will have a lecture on Mondays 9:10-11:15am and you can choose one of two lab sections:

  • Tuesday/Thursday 12:40-2:45pm
  • Wednesday/Friday 12:40-2:45pm

Physics 5700/5710 will have two sections (you choose one):

  • Tuesday/Thursday 12:40PM - 3:55PM lab
  • Monday/Wednesday 12:40PM - 3:55PM lab

Please note the time overlap between the above three classes.  Because these courses are offered during similar days/times, it is not possible to take more than one per term.

Summer Term

Whether or not Physics 3700 will be offered in the summer depends on demand.  Once scheduling begins for summer term, we will send an email to all physics and engineering physics majors asking if anyone is interested in taking these courses.  If there is enough interest (usually 12-15 students), we will offer the course.  Physics 5700/5710 and 4700 are not available during the summer.

How to sign up for a Controlled Access Course

Controlled access means that students are unable to enroll in these classes on their own.  The enrollment is controlled by Lindsey Thaler.  In order to take one of these classes, you will need to email Lindsey at thaler.21@osu.edu before the deadline listed below. She will put your name on a list and once scheduling windows open for that specific term, she will contact you regarding your enrollment in the class.  Keep in mind that putting your name on a list for a certain term does not guarantee you will get in.  Lindsey gives priority to seniors, then juniors, then sophomores, etc.  From there, she schedules based on who requested the course first.  If she cannot get you in for the term you requested, you will be enrolled in the class the following term. 

When emailing Lindsey, please include the following information:

  • Your OSU lastname.# (if not sending from an OSU email address)
  • Which course you are requesting and the term you'd like to take it
  • Your expected graduation date
  • (Optional) if you know which section of the course you'd prefer, you can include that information in your email as well.

Once you are placed on the list to take a controlled access course, please be patient.  Lindsey cannot start enrolling students in these courses until after scheduling for a specific term begins. 

After scheduling begins for a term you're supposed to take a controlled access course:

  • Lindsey will email you to let you know which sections of the class are available for that term and provide you with additional enrollment instructions.
  • Respond to Lindsey's email as soon as possible to let her know which section of the class you'd prefer. 
  • When you schedule your classes, you will sign up for all of your classes except for the controlled access course.  Again, you will not be able to enroll in these classes on your own as there is no way to "pre-approve" students in the scheduling system.  Lindsey will schedule the class for you
  • Once you have been enrolled, you will see the course on your schedule.  If Lindsey is unable to enroll you in a controlled access course for the term you requested, she will give you priority to take that course the following term and will be in contact with you about this through email. 

If you have any questions about this process, please contact Lindsey directly at thaler.21@osu.edu.

Deadlines for requesting and dropping Controlled Access Courses

Please follow the below deadlines for requesting enrollment for the controlled access courses.  If you miss the deadline, we will try our best to get you in, but chances are you'll have to wait to take the course at a later time and this may delay your graduation.

Term you want to take the class Deadline to contact Lindsey to request enrollment Deadline to drop
Autumn semester February 15 July 15
Spring semester October 1 December 1
Summer session (only 3700 & 4700) March 1 May 1

How do I check to make sure I'm on the list for a controlled access course?

Students are responsible for ensuring they are on the list to take controlled access courses using the directions in this section.  To check, log in to Carmen and click on the "Information for Physics and Eng. Physics Majors" link.  Then click on the "grades" tab and you'll see the options for Physics 3700, 4700, and 5700/5710.  If you're already listed to take one (or more) of these courses, the term you requested should be shown.

Penalties for dropping a Controlled Access Course

If you are enrolled in a controlled access course and you end up dropping the course before the term begins, this may have negative consequences for you.  Due to limited seating, it is very important that each seat in the class is filled.  If you drop the class at the last minute and we are unable to schedule a different student in your spot, it causes future enrollment problems.   If you drop a controlled access course and a.) do not notify Lindsey Thaler and/or b.) do not notify Lindsey in a timely fashion, then you will not be given priority for that same class in the future.   For example, if Lindsey enrolls you in Physics 3700 and you decide to drop the course after the deadline, then you will only be enrolled in that class for a future term after a.) all other students wanting to take that class have been enrolled and b.) if there are seats remaining.  The Department of Physics will not take responsibility if this delays your graduation.

If you have permission from a physics advisor (Lindsey Thaler or Dr. Robert Perry) to drop a controlled access course, you will not face any consequences.  But this will only be granted under extenuating circumstances that are beyond your control (e.g. time conflicts with required courses).

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